Login   Register FAQ    Search
It is currently Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:06 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour [ DST ]




Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Raids and gear levels
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:28 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:30 pm
Posts: 1093
Main: Mirid
Class: Druid
Type: Tank
Alt: Mirid
Alt Class: Druid
Alt Type: Ranged DPS
For anyone who is interested in first kills, WowInsider has posted an article listing statistics on Guild first kills in Cataclysm, and the gear level that they had when they did it:

http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/01/03/a-sur ... lysm-raid/

To be honest I felt the list was quite encouraging.
Looking at this, it seems you don't need uber-levels of gear to start downing things.

That's not to say that people shouldn't have the best gear possible of course, but I think it hints that we're definitely ready for raiding.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Raids and gear levels
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:03 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 10:13 pm
Posts: 267
Location: UK, near London
Main: Kryis
Class: Rogue
Type: DPS
Alt: Ascience
Alt Class: Druid
Alt Type: Healer
The interesting question is why the 10-man ilvl was higher for those first kills.

Was it because the encounters are actually harder on 10-man and require better gear to do?

Or because it is easier to kit out 10 players in heroic gear than 25, so the 10-man raids were either 10-man guilds who hit the heroics hard or 25-man guilds fielding their 10 best players, whereas the 25 man kills had to "make do" with some players that hadn't spent as much time/effort gearing up?

_________________
Image
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Raids and gear levels
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:34 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:30 pm
Posts: 1093
Main: Mirid
Class: Druid
Type: Tank
Alt: Mirid
Alt Class: Druid
Alt Type: Ranged DPS
I think it's a mixture of both.

For your first kill you'd probably want your strongest team to learn the fight and get it down, and your 10 strongest players are going to be on average stronger than your 25 strongest.

But there are some things that make 25 player easier; for example you get 3 rebirths/reincarnations/soulstones rather than 1, and it's less punishing if one person makes a mistake as there are more people there to compensate.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Raids and gear levels
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:28 pm 
Offline
Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:23 pm
Posts: 629
Location: Israel
Main: Demantra
Class: Priest
Type: Healer
Alt: Verill
Alt Class: Rogue
Alt Type: DPS
I still think its just a blizz faliure to balance things.

25 mans has a lot more raid buffs and group synergy, thus lower ilvl demand.

The encounter I guess lacks a bit o balance between 25 and 10

_________________
Rogue & DK CL

Image
ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 1 hour [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
mergenine: WoW Alliance BB3
World of Warcraft ® © 2004-2008 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved.