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 Post subject: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:10 am 
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Dont think im gone need shadowmourne

An lev 81 blue sword which puts shadowmourne in the garbage

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55052/

Mastery rating a new stat!

Look at this tanking head - nice

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55023/

The gear created by blacksmith :)


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:58 pm 
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omg 350 stamina!


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:09 pm 
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stamina always been biggest different imo with exps

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Highest first aid skill gives bandage that heals for 35 k, so yea I'm expecting we're gonna gain a lot of stam.
Like cren said, stam always was important upgrade for expansions, from vanilla to tbc my hp became 3x higher, from tbc to wotlk 3x higher too. If it's gonna be x3 again now I'm looking at 90-100k hp at lvl 85:P.

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:08 pm 
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Supposedly we're all going to be getting tons of Stamina in the next expansion, to give healers more time to heal someone.

I think Bliz is trying to stop healing being all about quick reactions, spam healing and overhealing, and more about tactical resource management.

Which sounds like a fun idea in my opinion; I might give a healer a whirl when it comes out.


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:12 pm 
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noooo mobs just going to hit harder and healers get bigger heals... heal mechanic/tact going to stay same i believe... its been same % change all the time with expansions...

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:18 pm 
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While I do believe we'll have a considerable ammount of stam, you've got to realize that this is (atleast to my knowledge) the first gear reset.

Perhaps someone whos raided longer can fill in. But 60 raid gear lasted you a while into lvling to 70, good raid gear in 70s lasted you a couple levels aswell.

Right of the bat you'll get gear at 78 thats as good if not better than raiding gear, which means a fresh slate for everyone.... I think this is fairly logical as with the new stat system it places everyone on the same place and allows a greater flexibility on handling everything (especialy mastery)

What im far more interested is in getting a couple of the new gems in some decent mid mid 60s-low 70s gear and riding them through northrend and selling all the other stuff. (Also lol ima my priests 60 pvp set with epic cata gems at one point for the lulz)

I think blizzard is doing something very good here, basicaly resetting everything. It makes it easier to implement some of the bigger more gamechanging things as far as gearing goes.

-Hit being a variable rather than a cap with each passing raid tier.
-Crafted items being valuable in various raid tiers, not to mention pvp (in all seasons)


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:39 pm 
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T2 lasted till high 60s, AQ/T3 last till 70 and maybe kara(cant remember)(they buffed kara gear soon after people got to 70 so the gear wont match up now)

and SWP gear lasted till wotlk heroics i believe.

this is for DPS gear tanking gear was probs a different story

oh and i think i read somewhere that they want healing to have low numbers compared to HP numbers...i try and find it, was some time ago though

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:05 pm 
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what i remember i upgraded my tier3 from 70lvl hc instances. dont think it went to kara.

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:53 pm 
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They have said that top level raid gear should last you until level 85 normal instances, healing is going to become more reactive, tanks are going to have enough health for you to be able to choose which heal to use, empathise is going to be taken off tank insta deaths and the danger will now be healers going oom.


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:45 pm 
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Dolorous wrote:
empathise is going to be taken off tank insta deaths and the danger will now be healers going oom.


ah back to vanilla ^^

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:50 am 
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Dolorous wrote:
They have said that top level raid gear should last you until level 85 normal instances, healing is going to become more reactive, tanks are going to have enough health for you to be able to choose which heal to use, empathise is going to be taken off tank insta deaths and the danger will now be healers going oom.


Im not meaning to be a dick or anything, but source? I was under the impression that the whole reason for the gearset was upgrade control...and from a user perspective an openess of posible upgrades when moving through the new content.

I was under the impression we'd get the "OOO SHINY" rather than the "Oh I can vendor this..." or "finaly got the thing ive been farming for 15 days" experience. TBH I was looking forward to playing like that. :(


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:31 am 
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More gear and stuff

One-hand dagger http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55068/elementium-shank/

Poleaxe http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55066/elementium-poleaxe/

Chest plate http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/55060/elementium-deathplate/

Gem Bold inferno ruby http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/52206/bold-inferno-ruby/

Gem JC special one http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/52255/bold-chimeras-eye/

Stamina JC special one http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/73401/solid-chimeras-eye/


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:20 am 
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84 str:P

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:29 pm 
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making it 85 puts it more in line with the current % bonus of normal vs jc gems... im wondeirng if this is a hint towards a rebalancing of professions that makes everyone more even ...or if im being paranoid.

Im far more interested in the scaling of stats tbh, otherwise this is all worthless right now, for all you know 1.7 cata str = 1 current str.


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:59 am 
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84 would mean that with 3 jc gems u'd gain 34x3 = 102 and this is bang on with current as its 2 epic gems worth (rounded up) of stats as a bonus.

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:20 pm 
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I did the math from a different perspective (and yes I just realized im being overly anal)

34/20= 1.7
84/50= 1.68

Thing is 85/50= 1.7

Just found it incredibly weird is all.

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To follow your example we currently have:

34-20 = 14
14*3= 42 so an extra 2.1 gems (42/20)

In Cata:

84-50 = 34
34*3 =102 so an extra 2.04 (102/50)

Rather than:
85-50=35
35*3= 105 so an extra 2.1 (105/50)

Again... overly anal, but still think im the clear. (Take that all of my math teachers!)
Also everyone panic and whine, JC is getting nerfed!


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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:54 pm 
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so theres not normal epic gems between that rare gem and jc special one?

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 Post subject: Re: OMG Catalyst Gear
PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:57 am 
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Well Lou the aim is for the 3 JC gems to give u 2 gems worth of bonus but they always round up to the nearest whole number.

Cren, I am 99% sure that the epic gems won't be out to start with. As with WOTLK and TBC. When the epic gems are released all of the profession bonuses will be pimped to make them 2 epic gems worth rather than 2 rare gems worth.

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