can anyone post a talent build for WotLK for shammy?
If someone can find ele and resto talents I am interested to see that
thanks beforehand ^^

I have build some talents for elemental specc but dunno if it's ok
Shaman Talents - Wrath of the Lich King Beta Talents
Minimum Required Level: 80
Required Talent Points: 71

Elemental Talents - 51 point(s)

# Convection - rank 5/5
# Concussion - rank 5/5
# Elemental Warding - rank 3/3
# Reverberation - rank 1/5
# Elemental Focus - rank 1/1
# Call of Thunder - rank 5/5
# Storm Reach - rank 2/2
# Elemental Fury - rank 1/1
# Unrelenting Storm - rank 5/5
# Elemental Precision - rank 3/3
# Lightning Mastery - rank 5/5
# Elemental Mastery - rank 1/1
# Elemental Oath - rank 2/2
# Lightning Overload - rank 5/5
# Totem of Wrath - rank 1/1
# Storm, Earth and Fire - rank 5/5
# Thunderstorm - rank 1/1

Restoration Talents - 20 point(s)

# Totemic Focus - rank 5/5
# Improved Reincarnation - rank 2/2
# Tidal Focus - rank 5/5
# Healing Focus - rank 3/3
# Tidal Mastery - rank 5/5
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/cla ... 0000000000
I think i posted this link all right but dunno,I'll see when I post it and try to open
btw Thunderstorm rocks

i guess you guy's need some help from a pro here.
and hey guy's been a wile ^^ that i check the forum i guess olmost 6 month's i guess oke let's get starting

about the talents i dont see anything intresting for a pve elemental shaman in restoration tree vrach so in my opinion get rid of that build ^^ i will post a few talent tree's enclusive the glyph's witch you can see on the right side

pve - Elemental
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=553001150321535102501351000000000000000000000000000052003310000000000000000000&glyph=071215050604

pvp - Elemental
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=550300152321505132531051000000000000000000000000000052023010000000000000000000&glyph=091503050604
dont forget to cast waterwalking and underwater breathing before you start a duel or gowing in arena it's a extra buff to enoyying your oponent.

pve - Restoration
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=000000000000000000000000050353310500135011223312513052003300000000000000000000&glyph=010414050406
reason i took enhancing totems and gaurdian totems and elemental weapons in enhancement tree is because this helps you better in 5man and aswell in raids i personal never use big heals so that's why i chooce for these points

pvp - Restoration
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=000000000000000000000000050353310500135511223312510050023010000000000000000000&glyph=140411050406
this is far most the diffecults tree to play in pvp need to pay attention on massive amount of stuff use ghost wolf to kite your enemy or to travel fast to your team mate dont forget to help your team mate with earth shocks and most inportant alway's drink when you out of combat every bit of mana gained is a winst for your mana pool and make sure you oponents dont drink mana specialy the healers alway's keep water shield up

i am not so huge fan of enhancement and not that expierence in it so i think it's better if i skip that pve and pvp wise

if people are intrested i can put my own macro's with it but it's not so hard to make them your self i for example have thunderstorm with a spell dmg trinket linked + elemental mastery in one macro, but that's more for leveling up or grinding in dungeons or raid wise you wont use it so much i guess or probely not at all.[url][/url]

My resto build is

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hZoxxIZxce0VtoxkrIRt

and tbh i cant see that there at that many viable alternatives which vary by more than one or 2 points. I barely ever have mana problems with my gear at the moment but if you do i could understand taking totemic focus over improved healing wave which is imho one of the worst spells that any class has. I hear its being re-vamped a fair bit in 3.1 with a base reduction of 0.5s in cast time and this talent is being removed. I cast healing wave maybe one or twice per raid and often no times at all, but since i also very rarely go oom or even lom tier 1 is 5 wasted talent points whichever way you look at it. I used to have the one point that is in healing way in tidal forces and it would probably be a better place for it given healing ways awfulness but i never used tidal forces, maybe i should learn to. Ideally i'd like 3/3 enhancing totems but havent been able to find a way to get this in without losing some valuable talent from Enhancement.


My ele build is a bit more of a work in progress, i tried some of the suggested builds i found online and realised that even without keeping water shield up or using thunderstorm i really struggled to get below 85% mana at any point. As a result i basically ditched all talents that increased mana regen. Now i do have some resto gear in my ele set which explains my lack of any kind of mana problems but i think this is also fairly endemic in wotlk across all classes since blizz seem to have done their best to make mana regen a non issue with retri-din and surv hunters basically meaning that you are regenning 0.25% of ur total mana per second before you even look at your own regen capabilities.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hEh0qcdctGxsthxxco

Depending on ur mana u could easily take unrelenting storms (a really powerful - if un-needed talent) at the cost of enhancing totems (esp if you are expecting an enh shammy in the raid - altho i have noticed that a lot of enh shammy no longer take 3/3 enhancing totems, which i personally think they should be taken out and shot -thankfully hin doesnt fall into this category)

When it comes to enhancement builds i confess myself woefully unable to help, perhaps hin could share.