Hey dear guildies.

i have spoken yesterday with turquise about my spec in raids.
Don't get me wrong with this post becuase i just wanna tell my personal feelings about it.

Its great that i can help the raid with the best ingame spell power buff there is.... BUT here it come's i try to tell this in a mature way but i "suck" at it... i losing the fun in the game when i always see me in the lowest way a caster can do..
I have tried several's demonology spec's wich elite jerkin's and the warlock's den advice.

I will tell my rotation so maybe someone can put some note's to it.

First of all i look at the raid setup to see iff i have to put up curse of elements.
when it is not needed i put curse of doom or curse of agony up.. depens on boss and stuff.
Then my main rotation: First i use life tap then i start dotting up Curruption and immolate, i put those both up for: (curruption gives me Molten Core proc) Immolate : (increased spell power with the 4set of t10).
Then i hit Demonic Empowerment, Metamorphosis with his immolation aura. Then i gonna spam Shadow bolt's or when my molten core proc's i use Incenerate. when a mob or boss is below 35% i spam Soul fire and keep refreshing my Curruption.


I hope that i inform you with the best i could.

I don't know what is your dps in the raids. But maybe you have some wrong gem's.

You should always keep Immolate and Corruption up. And the boss should always have the debuff Curse of Elements. And always when ever your CDs are off CD use 'em.

Hey sheyn
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You should always keep Immolate and Corruption up. And the boss should always have the debuff Curse of Elements. And always when ever your CDs are off CD use 'em. [/quote]

First i always keep my dot's up every dot is a dps increase...
Second: the debuff Curse of elements is not always needed.. when a unholy dk is in raid he have the same debuff

Greetings

I can only give generic advice. As I've never raided on my warlock, I can only give an uninformed opinion instead of a fact, like I might post on the dk forums...

Now all I can recommend is effective use of cooldowns, bind Demonic Empowerment to everything so it automatically gets used every 45 seconds, Use Meta during Heroism and as often as possible, combine trinket use with Meta, use teleport to increase activity, never clip dots (This isn't advice for you, i just felt I couldn't miss it out, telling a warlock not to to clip dots is like telling the pope god exists...).

Also try and max meta/decimate combined time. Try and figure out how long fights will last and determine the most effective use of meta.

On a different note you should never have to use CoE in a 25 man, there shpould always be a boomkin or a unholy dk in there.

Ell

N.b. I haven't raided since TBC on my lock so feel free to tell me you know all this already, but if i mention one thing you don't know it was a worthwile post. And all I did in TBC was spam shadowbolt

Edit: Also, do you use the power auras addon, its fucking immense for tracking molten core and decimate if you use it properly

Hi ell.

First thnx for the reply. my answers to the suggestion's you did are the follow.
i never redot before the last tick goes because the last ticks are mostly the highest and the global cooldown overwrite it so it will be a dps lose.
i always use's my cd as fast as possible but i keep in mind to have my meta when i know when the raid is gonna use hero in that case i also use wild magic potion.

and i use indeed power aura's to see my molten core and soul fire proc.

so far i don't see anything i do wrong.
the problem i see is the haste i have with spellstone around 850 haste wich make my shadow bolt cast 1.89 sec little more maybe with lag.

Perhaps not the right place to ask this, but as far as I know our buffs. (curse of the elements and ebon plaguebringer) replace eachother, correct?

I know ebon plaguebringer edges out on most fights due to its easily spreadable nature via pestilence, however I was wondering if the resistance reducing component of would be more viable within a stationary fight like say saurfang.

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Perhaps I'm overcomplicating this, but im wondering how viable taking the points from ebon plaguebringer and putting them in:

If blood subspecced:
-subversion (blood tier 1) a ton of crit and threat reduction.
-anihiliation (frost tier 3) more crit.

If blood subspecced:
-Death rune mastery (blood tier 3) for a mid hero SS spamfest
-Dark conviction (blood tier 3) more crit.
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As far as using cooldowns asap, id recomend against it (unless theres some weird lock logic im not aware of) as well timed cooldowns can at times be better than more cooldowns due to their combined output.

Luck "fixing yourself" its annoying when you just cant find whats breaking your dps lol.

Coming from a lock who doesnt really play it anymore and has like the crappiest gear ever but...

My main used to be demo lock, even at the time i was said i was a moron doing it and still topped the meters.

Think my thing was i spammed. Destroy ur keyboard and it should be fine. Also too many addons make u blind.

Maybe this isnt worth anything but i always saw myself pretty high when i never waited for cd's or rotations, i made up my own and kept to it. The way of rotation for me has always been the one ive been happy with, not the one ive read from forums.

one more thing bout Curse of Elements.. we boomkins keep same debuff on boss also... and we have boomkin in raid almost everytime. me or Druidknight

Well i dont think its the same buff. CoE reduces the targets resistances by 115 ?? and is afaik the only buff from any class that can do this. So I should think that a lock should always keep this up in a 25 man as all those 100s on 7400 (100 resisted) will probably be more dmg than curse of agony/doom. Just my tuppence worth and I may well be wrong.

This goes back to my question on if any of these are mutually exclusive, the main advantage to ebon plague bringer (ebp) is the fact that its so easily spreadable, which results in a much lower dps loss than other classes wasting gcds.

Im not familiar on the working of Resistances, but even if the effect is minimal I would think keeping it up on a "Main target" on a per lock basis would more than make up fo the loss in terms of GCDs.

A point id not thought of, is the spreading out of he lock/druid ones based on targets, especially if they are indeed exclusive though a badly timed pestilence would probably mess it up for a while (again assuming exclusivity) the coordination of these buffs could give a small passive damage reduction. Passive in the sense of the 3 specs not involved.

Like i never do, i read only bits there and here so i missed the thing that might be important.

U got 850 haste with spellstone? That seems way low, think u wanna swap some gear for upping it. A lot.
Myself im sitting at around 1.3-1.4k with spellstone and i feel i dont have enough. Dps is quite nice but with more haste im sure i could do more as spam is what the spec needs. And spam is what we do. Then again i dont raid with it but id say u want haste if ur doing everything u can right.

hey matafake.

The only answer i could give on this is that i gemmed for sp+ haste.
Why i did this is just to compare the sp bonus buff and my own dps
will explain this a little better how more spell power a demon lock have how bigger the spell bonus buff is for the raid.

when i only going for haste then it "almost" have no point for being demo for the raid buff

The spell power amount u have just from gear must be massive with the gear levels now so swapping some to haste cant be a big deal. Ány % u can get over the shammy totem is a boost so i doubt having some 100's less sp for faster casting makes u sucky buffer. Maybe check some gear choices, there must be haste gear that u can swap into without losing too much spell power.

U should have over 1k haste unbuffed or the casts take forever. As im comparing ur stats to some other high level locks u got around 10% more crit than them and they got double the haste you got. Maybe that makes sense to being low in dps.

its indeed a worth of try thnx matafaka